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The Worst Case Scenario, Explored

We can't help it. It's in our nature. We know that something will go wrong - Green will get away with a walk, Bennett will catch an inexplicable celebration flag, Murray State will hit a ridiculous jumper that we have to see every March for the rest of time. So in the interest of inoculating us against the worst possible calamity, I decided to take a look at our worst-case scenario for next year, in which we lose more or less everyone that could reasonably go (short of unforeseen injury). It's not pretty, at first glance, but upon review it may not be as bad as it looks.

First up, Andre Walker. This is a young man who is on track to graduate in May - and who lost a parent during his college years. The person who recovers from that sort of tragedy often isn't the same person to whom it happened. Couple that with all the injury and illness problems he's suffered this season, and it wouldn't be surprising for Andre to decide to take his diploma and move on with his life. Under the circumstances, I couldn't fault him at all, and if he chooses to go, well, God bless him and thanks for a great career as a Commodore.

Next up... 

Star-divide

...the Big Three, the consensus NBA prospects. Right now, I'd say the most likely to go is actually Festus Ezili - you can't coach 6-foot-11, and what you can coach, he has shown the ability to learn, and fast. Consider what it was like watching him go to the free throw line a year ago, versus down the stretch Saturday against South Carolina. Now I realize that the NBA is no longer in the draft-a-big-body-and-hope-for-the-best mode of years past, but even so, Skynet has so much potential upside that someone will take a flyer on him if he chooses to come out.

As for John Jenkins and Jeffrey Taylor, I suspect they could both use another year's seasoning - Jenkins to work on his defense and continue improving inside, and Taylor just to get straightened out and find his killer instinct again. But it's not inconceivable they could turn pro and take a chance on the draft - they're certainly no worse prospects than AJ Ogilvy was at this time last year. I don't think they would go, but remember, this is the worst case scenario, so off they go and please let the Warriors get at least one of them.

As for the guys who aren't part of the current rotation: Meriweather and Duffy are done, although I expect to be reading Fluffy's column at ESPN.com in a year or two. Darshawn McClellan has a year left after his surprise redshirt, but he too is on track to graduate and rumblings are that he will use the NCAA transfer rule to attend grad school elsewhere and play his final year. So all told, we could see seven guys take a hike come April - again, this is the worst case scenario.

So what does this mean for next year?

For one thing, it seriously depletes the bodycount in the frontcourt - that's our entire opening-day starting front three, representing an average total of 31 points, 18 rebounds, 3 blocks and 76 man-minutes per game. And JJ23 has averaged 19 points in 34 minutes per game - so that's 50 points a game, gone. (46 without Andre Walker, just to acknowledge that he hasn't been around that much. No point in lying - the worst-case scenario is devastating for next year.

But.

We do have three new talents coming on board. Dai-Jon Parker isn't quite on the level of John Jenkins coming out of school, but he already has a name and a reputation. His only weakness is the ability to move over to point guard - and with the arrival of Kedren Johnson, that might not be an issue. Johnson has size for a PG (6-4) and is a known good defender, as is Parker. And to them, add Shelby Moats, a 6-7 forward with good passing skills and a cerebral approach on the court (sound familiar?) We also get to activate current redshirts Josh Henderson (6-11) and James Siakam (6-6), who presumably have as much practice time as Rod Odom and Kyle Fuller - and after Saturday, it's starting to look like Rod Odom is clicking.

Right now, though, the worst case scenario for 2011-12 looks a lot like 2008-09: size, youth, and a lot of reloading for the next year or two to come. Five first-year players might make things a little too exciting, and not in a good way, but 2013 and 2014 have the potential to look a lot like the last couple of seasons as a whole bunch of guys get to spend a lot of years together gelling as a team. And let's not forget we (presumably) still have Steve, Lance and Brad to be the senior leadership on next year's squad.

The practical upshot of all this is: we have reloaded with this year's class, enough that the train will continue to run. I don't think I really appreciated Kevin Stallings as a recruiter until I went through this little exercise, but make no mistake, we have the talent to keep this run going for some time. Yes, the future is still now - but it'll be there next year and the year after, too.

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I think Taylor is the biggest risk to leave

And I’d bet he at least declares after the season to get an idea of where his draft stock would be. Ezeli could take that option as well. Unfortunately, both are guys who look great in workouts, so their “testing the waters” period could go very well for them. Ultimately, Ezeli and Taylor’s slumps in SEC play might end up being a blessing, as neither one looks like they could guarantee a first round choice right now (combined with CBA issues, they may just be better served staying, as last year would have been the most beneficial to leave).

Jenkins, on the other hand, is still too limited to go anywhere, and I think he knows that. I don’t see him as an early entry candidate. I think we’ll have him for four years, a la JJ Redick or Adam Morrison. His game isn’t evolved enough to be anything more than a role player on the next level yet, and might not ever get there. His skillset makes him a big risk to become a player with great college skills that just don’t translate.

by Christian D'Andrea on Feb 8, 2011 11:28 AM EST reply actions  

I clean forgot there are impending CBA issues in the NBA as well...

Good thing we’re all in on Vandy, because professional versions of our flagship sports may be in abeyance come autumn.

"Well, if that ain't a show, I'll kiss your ass." - Gov. Jim Folsom Sr. (D-AL), 1948-52

by VandyImport on Feb 8, 2011 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Festus and Jenkins could leave, but the situation isn't good enough to do it

I think that Festus and Jenkins both could leave if they wanted to.

Festus’s body and improvement would probably get him drafted, but it just sets him up for years in the D-league trying to get to NBA speed. He’s not even totally up to NCAA speed yet, and is far from knowing how to dominate consistently. He can learn just as much, maybe more with CKS (and an otherwise comfortable situation) than he could in the D-league. If he keeps progressing at the rate he has, I think he has an outside shot at SEC-POY. At some point when he gets more caught up, his rate of improvement will slow, but I don’t think that time has come.

I don’t know what Fes’s background in Nigeria is, but if his family is super poor, I could see him going because it just makes sense, but if they don’t need the money right away, I think he’s happy enough here, and grateful enough to Stallings, that he’ll stick around.

Jenkins clearly is a role player at best in the NBA. I do think he’s possibly draftable, but clearly, at this point, he’s a long way from where guys like Redick/Curry/Morrison were when they graduated and he’s a late 2nd rounder if anything. Shooters who don’t do much else play 4 years in college, and I think John knows that’s how it is.

I think Taylor still may be borderline 1st rounder, at least early 2nd round because of his length, his athleticism, the addition of solid 3 shooting, his defense, and his potential. Plus, I’m not sure how much better Jeff will get at Vandy. I’d still bet on him leaving.

I think Andre is probably gone, and I think CKS is expecting that he is, though I think he hasn’t totally given up on convincing him to stay.

These are my guesses for the chances of these guys leaving:
JJ – 1 in 100 chance of leaving
Festus – 1 in 8
JT – 5 in 8
Andre – 7 in 8

I do think Darshawn is gone also, which would leave us with only 12 guys on scholarship, which is a shame, since I think we could use another young C prospect.

Judging by my fractions, I’d say it’s more likely than not that both leave. However, that’s without really considering the CBA issues.

Still, so long as JJ and Fes stay, I feel super good about next season.

I love the idea of Brad – Kedren – Kyle at PG. JJ and DJ at SG. Rod O at SF. Fes and Henderson at C. LG splitting between 3 and 4. Steve splitting between 4 and 5. And Siakam to play D at the 3 or 4.

The CBA situation may alter the deal on Jeff, and if either he or Andre stay it only helps. Too bad they both can’t stay, since that would put us at 14 scholarships.

But if JT stays, that leaves LG at the 4 with Steve and makes us super deep at literally every position.
Same if Andre stays, that probably puts Lance at the 3 full-time. With Andre and Steve splitting the duties at the 4.

In any case, I love our team next year (though Kentucky’s will be pretty freakin good, hopefully, all of their current freshman will go pro).

by The Goche on Feb 8, 2011 12:52 PM EST up reply actions  

On Darshawn

A recent article in one of the locals indicated that D-Mac was definitely planning to come back for his fifth year.

I think Taylor and Walker are the most likely exits, and just can’t see Ezeli or Jenkins going anywhere. Unexpected transfers are always possible, too.

by BrianSWard on Feb 8, 2011 1:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Darshawn on transfer

From Lockridge’s blog on the Tennessean:

D.M. on transferring …

“At the moment, right now, we (the coaches and I) haven’t really tal­ked about it. My focus is on get­ting bet­ter. When that time comes and we sit down at the end of the year and talk about it and see all the options out there, then we’ll see what’s going on.”

Doesn’t sound like he is definitely planning on staying. I think it might come down to what happens with Jeff and Andre.

If both go, D-Mac might have a little more PT (not to mention, we’d have scholarship room for him to stay), if either stays, I think the competition at the 4 will actually be tougher than it was this season, and given the fact that we’d need him to leave to get down to 13 scholarships, I think he’d be gone.

by The Goche on Feb 8, 2011 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

This may be what you were referring to

(BTW, the Tennessean quote was from Jan 6).

This was in The City Paper on Jan 31 in an article about the redshirts:

The 6-foot-7 senior forward is redshirting this season, hoping he can have "the ultimate, best senior season that I picture for myself."

The native of Fresno, Calif., averaged more than 15 minutes a game his first two years at Vanderbilt but saw his playing time cut in half last year.

Just two players departed from last year’s team, leaving a stacked squad primed to contend again this season.

McClellan insisted that what stood in front of him wasn’t the issue. He said the extra year is allowing him to make the transition to the guard position and become a better shooter.

To me it doesn’t say I want to play for Vandy, as much as I want to play. I think that if the opportunity was available for him to play here, that he would certainly take it, but I think he will go wherever there is a chance for some PT. In any case, it’s far from an unequivocal statement that he’s staying.

Also, the idea of him as a guard is kind of hilarious, particularly with our loaded backcourt next season. Maybe could see him playing the 3, but even there, I sure wouldn’t expect him to beat out Odom for playing time.

I’ll stand by my previous guess: if Jeff and Andre leave, I’d say 2 out of 3 chance he stays, if either one stays, he definitely goes.

by The Goche on Feb 8, 2011 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

This is the one ...

at the time, I read it as “definitely staying.” But, in light of the quote in Lockridge’s blog, your interpretation seems to be more likely.

by BrianSWard on Feb 8, 2011 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

it'll depend on the tourney...

Assuming the Dores make the tourney, if Festus and Taylor play well and the team wins a couple games the chances of both these guys leaving goes up big time. I think its much less likely that Festus leaves than Taylor though. I think he realizes he still needs more time to develop and there may be some questions about his knees since they’ve been nagging him this season. But if Taylor throws down a few “poster” dunks and puts up 20+ in a couple tourney games, the hype may be enough to push him into the first round of the draft. However, i do think questions about his mental toughness and drive will hurt him in the eyes of scouts until he proves them wrong.

As much as I like Taylor I think Festus would be a much bigger loss due to to the lack of depth at center and the talent at the G/SF position in our 2011 recruiting class. So hopefully I’m wrong and the Dores get to the Sweet 16 (and beyond??) but Taylor and Festus’ draft stock doesn’t go up high enough to leave and we are STACKED for a big 2012 season. But if one has to go i’d prefer it be Taylor.

by dawease on Feb 8, 2011 1:17 PM EST reply actions  

Well, I'm glad you at least didn't go with "Worst Case Scenario" instead of AoG for the title of the blog.

I always go first half - coffee, second half - beer, because In LA, the games start at 10:00 a.m.

by Drubaru on Feb 8, 2011 4:06 PM EST reply actions  

Taylor mid-1st rounder?

Seth Davis did a overview of the top-56 NBA draft prospects. No mention of JJ or Ezeli but he said Taylor could sneak into the mid-1st round. After his most recent dissapearing act in the UK game I don’t see how scouts can peg him as ready to be a consistent contributor in the NBA right now. You’d think another year in the SEC would help him grow into a real 1st rounder, but who knows.

by dawease on Feb 14, 2011 4:55 PM EST reply actions  

the more I think about it...

the more I think that Ezili is the only guy who might possibly be of interest this year, just because of the size and the potential. I think Taylor’s star has fallen enough that unless he just explodes for the rest of the season and is prominent in a deep Tournament run, he won’t be on the radar for this draft. I think at the point, the worst case scenario is less a potential issue than the lack of enough scholarships to go around.

"Well, if that ain't a show, I'll kiss your ass." - Gov. Jim Folsom Sr. (D-AL), 1948-52

by VandyImport on Feb 14, 2011 7:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I disagree, kind of a lot

Taylor is long enough, super athletic, and he defends well. On top of that he CAN score, they just need to get him to do what he can do more often.

Plus, I think what we’ve seen from Taylor is he doesn’t want to be top dog, he can’t be depended on to set the pace every game. That’s his real failure this season.

I think he’s a sure-thing rotation player (possibly right away), with a possibility to grow into a starter. I don’t know if that makes him a first rounder, but he’s definitely a draft pick.

I think the real decisive factor on where he would go depends on whether teams feel like they can teach him to be confident, but the NBA skills are already there.

Festus on the other hand is still a project. He’d have 2 or 3 D-league years to go. He would probably be drafted I think, but he’s definitely a 2nd rounder, probably late 2nd.

Fes can stay and learn to dominate the game. I think Jeff could get better if he stays, but not nearly as much as Fes. I do not think that if Jeff stays he’ll suddenly take over the team. In fact, I think that next year this will be even more JJ and Fes’s team than it is this year.

I would love for Jeff to stay (because we’d be unbelievable next year at every position), but I won’t be too bummed if he goes, because I just don’t really see his draft chances getting much better over the next year.

(Side note: the one scenario in which I think JT really takes off if he stays next season is, with all the depth we’ll have, and with JJ and Fes ready to take the drivers seat, he could possibly do much better without the pressure of people expecting him to be the star.)

by The Goche on Feb 15, 2011 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

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