Eight Conference Games In: what drives Vandy's losses
Before the season really got under way, I posted that we'd only go as far as our defensive efficiency would take us. I held up last years performance in the SEC schedule and what was a relatively poor defense (106 points per 100 possessions in SEC play).
Guess what? Our defensive efficiency in conference is allowing 104.6 points per game (using stats from Ken Pomeroy)! Improvement! But still pretty bad. So that's it. That's why we're losing, right? Not so fast...
| Win/Loss | Team | Home/Road | Offense | Defense |
| Loss | South Carolina | Road | 1.05 | 1.16 |
| Won | Georgia | Home | 1 | 0.9 |
| Loss | Tennessee | Road | 0.89 | 0.94 |
| Won | Ole Miss | Home | 1.17 | 1.03 |
| Won | Miss St | Road | 1.14 | 1.04 |
| Loss | Arkansas | Home | 1.22 | 1.39 |
| Loss | Florida | Road | 0.91 | 0.97 |
| Won | South Carolina | Home | 1.22 | 0.94 |
| Average | 1.075 | 1.04625 |
All stats from Ken Pomeroy here. And in the rest of this post. Go to his website. http://kenpom.com
In conference, we have lost 2 of our best four overall defensive performances (UT/UF on the road... what a waste). So, we know that half our in-conference losses, and a third of our total losses came with reasonable defensive performances. So it isn't just "overall defensive efficiency."
More sleuthing post jump.
It could be playing away from Memorial. Our record is 2-1 at neutral sites (with wins over the 11th (UNC) and 46th (Neb) best teams and a loss to the 19th (WVU) best), 2-4on the road (wins over 196th (MTSU) and 165th (MS St) best; losses to the 23rd (Mizzou), 106th (SCar), 45th (UT) and 31st (UF) best), and a record at home of 12-1 (best wins are 26th Marquette, 34th St Marys, 35th Belmont, and 59th UGa).
As of right now, looking at the schedule we have faced, I think our road record has more to do with the quality of teams we played on the road, versus at home. We have had an ambitious road schedule thus far; we only have two difficult road trips left (UGa and UK). In our road losses, our defensive efficiency ranks from as good as 93.6 at UT to an abysmal 116.4 at SCar (both games are also our extremes for offensive efficiency, with 89.4 and 105.2 respectively). We may play worse on the road, but with two OT losses and two 3 point losses, we aren't playing a ton worse on the road. We have good defensive performances (UT, UF) and we have good offensive performances (105 against SCar, 103 against Mizzou) in our losses. And it doesn't explain Arkansas.
So, to identify what ails us, I'll move to KenPom's four factors (eFG%, TO%, OR%, and FTR). And this is, from what I can tell, where the problem lies.
If you notice KenPom's evaluation of our defense, you'll see that we excel at holding opponents to a poor eFG%, where we are 15th in the nation (primarily by smothering 3pt shooters; we're 11th in the nation at 3pt fg%). Second, we don't foul opposing teams; we have the 19th lowest free throw rate for opposing teams. To do this, we sacrifice crashing the defensive glass somewhat (we're 133rd in preventing offensive rebounds) and we are not a team that gambles for steals (we are 292nd in turnover percentage). These are the central tenets of our defense this year.
HOWEVER: for a team that doesn't bank on forcing turnovers to win, we sure do suffer when we produce them at less than a 16.9% clip (ie. about 17 to's per 100 possessions... the D-1average is 20.5). To wit:
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This shows clearly that there is reason for concern whenever we aren't hitting at least 17% (ok, 16.9%) in the opp TO rate. No loss is an exception to this rule. If we won't force turnovers at 17 to 100 possessions, we will very likely lose. It wasn't until the latter quarter of the game against Miss State that we pulled out the press, and that move may have been more necessary than we thought.
Now, why didn't we lose to Grambling and Ole Miss then? I'm glad you asked. We held them to offensive rebounding rates of 20.6% and 22.2% respectively, our 2nd and 5th best efforts on the defensive glass all year. We may not have force them to give us the ball, but we didn't allow second chances, either. They shot, and the ball was ours one way or the other.
This brings us to our second factor:
| Team | Result | Opp OR% | eFG% | TO% | FTR |
| Florida | L, 65-61 | 36.3 | 41.7 | 16.4 | 43.3 |
| West Virginia | L, 74-71 | 36.5 | 41.8 | 14.3 | 70.9 |
| Arkansas | L, 89-78 | 36.7 | 63.9 | 10.9 | 51.9 |
| Davidson | W, 80-52 | 37.1 | 32.7 | 18.4 | 6.7 |
| North Carolina | W, 72-65 | 37.3 | 43.5 | 30.3 | 50 |
| Tennessee | L, 67-64 | 38.4 | 37.8 | 15.4 | 17.6 |
| Missouri | L, 85-82 | 39.2 | 43.2 | 12.6 | 27.2 |
| South Carolina | W, 78-60 | 39.3 | 47.3 | 23.5 | 27.3 |
| South Carolina | L, 83-75 | 41.2 | 50.7 | 12.6 | 16 |
| Georgia | W, 73-66 | 41.3 | 38.2 | 17.8 | 20.8 |
These are our 10 worst games at keeping the defensive glass clean. You'll notice, it doesn't appear quite as strong a correlation (rather than 6 of the bottom 8, it's 6 of the bottom 10), but we do appear to suffer when we let teams get on the offensive boards. In the four instances in which we won, you can see the areas of the defense that compensated: Davidson connected on less than a third of their shots, and took almost no free throws (a perfect game by our defensive standards), UNC gave us the ball nearly 1 out of every 3 possessions, SCar round 2 turned the ball over almost twice as much as they did in the first game with them, and UGa shot horribly against us. I think it's important to note that we seem to be somewhat better at masking a bad game on the defensive glass than we are at masking a bad game (by our low standards) when it comes to forcing turnovers.
So, after all of this, what have we learned? It's not just defensive efficiency overall, or playing on the road that is killing us. The simple fact is that when we don't force enough turnovers, we are much more likely to lose; this is particularly true when coupled with a bad job on our defensive glass. Unfortunately, our defense is geared towards producing bad shots and avoiding fouls, NOT producing turnovers. Perhaps we will see more of the press, or some jumping of the passing lanes... I'm not a basketball coach, so I don't know. It may not be addressed at all. But, right now, if you want to tell if we'll win or lose a game, check the turnovers. Hope for something in the range of 12+ (depending on pace of the game). It seems to have the strongest correlation at the moment.
Note: There is also some correlation with how well we shoot: four of the five worst eFG% performances are losses. Oddly, so are the 6th and 11th best shooting performances. There is little correlation with how much we turn it over, which shocked me... of the seven best Vandy TO% performances, three are losses.
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This is great.
I’ll add it to the front page later today.
I really like Pomeroy’s stats, glad to see him contributing at ESPN now. Second chances have killed this team, something that you can visibly point to in exact moments in trips to Florida and UT. It’s not a fatal flaw but it’s definitely not making things easier, and in a season that has been marred by close losses it has got to be a priority (i.e. get Lance back in working over and have Festus stay at home more often rather than lunging for blocks).
by Christian D'Andrea on Feb 8, 2011 10:22 AM EST reply actions
FT breakdown
those are definitely interesting stats, and if you have some more time on your hands i’d love to see a more detailed breakdown of the Dores’ FT shooting. While i think they’re shooting like 77% as a team, which is pretty damn good, I still don’t have much confidence in a game that comes down to free throws unless Jenkins is shooting all of them. From simply watching the games its seems to me that…
- they miss a lot of the front ends of 1-1’s (Arkansas game especially i beleive)
- they miss a lot of clutch free throws (see Taylor, Jeffery and Goulbourne, Lance)
I know their team FT % is good, but my impression is that this number is skewed big time due to Jenkins and that (again excluding Jenkins) we shoot FT’s really poorly in clutch situations, lets say in the last 3 minutes of the game. I’d say this has led to at least two losses directly (Mizzou and Florida) and hasn’t helped in the others.
So do the stats back me up?
I'd be very interested in the FT% for Festus
Especially given that more than one announcer has asserted a big drop-off in his FT% when he leaves Memorial. All I know is that he seems damn neat automatic at home – certainly relative to last season…
"Well, if that ain't a show, I'll kiss your ass." - Gov. Jim Folsom Sr. (D-AL), 1948-52
Festus is much worse on the road, but still better than last season by a lot. And he has been better lately:
Away from Memorial:
vs. Neb – 2-2
vs. WVa – 4-9
vs. UNC – 5-7
@ Mizzou – 4-10
@ MTSU – 5-12
@ USC – 3-6
@ UT – 5-8
@ Miss St. – 4-7
@ UF – 1-3
3 Neutral site games: 11-18 61.1%
6 Road games: 22-46 47.8% (In 4 SEC road games – 14-24 58.3%)
13 Home games: 56-77 72.7% (In 4 SEC home games – 25-32 78.1%)
In SEC play he’s hitting 69.6 %.
Clearly he’s better at home (and in SEC home games he’s been amazing, especially his last 3 games 10-12, 6-6, 3-4), but he’s much improved on the road. Still the difference is over 25% between home and away, so it is a factor.
In any case, I’m really happy with his improvement, and happy for him given all his work.
Missouri
We missed four front-ends in that game, including three in the second half. The most 1-and-1s you can have in a half is three. We had three. Missed all three. Major suckage, given the fact that we lost that game in overtime.
I'd say that ...
Jenkins and Tinsley have been pretty clutch lately, and Ezeli has been at home. Tchiengang is clutch.
Goulbourne has SEC problems
LG has been solid at the line overall, .750. But in SEC play he’s only hit .667. At UF he missed 2 front ends, and he missed one again at USC, it’s not good, but I also don’t think that’s a major running problem.
Also, he needs to chill out with his .263 percentage threes. I know that was part of his game when he got to school, but it hasn’t worked out. I’d say if it’s wide open, and he’s already set, it’s fine (depending on the situation), but otherwise, RED LIGHT!
agree on the Goulbourne front
He best attribute is his freakish leaping ability around the rim for dunks, put-backs, and rebounds. We’ve already got JJ, Taylor, Tinsley, Odom, and Tchiengang shooting threes, so no need for him shoot unless he is open enough to set his feet and count 3 mississippi. Fuller needs to be added to this list as well. Except I would prefer he never shoots another three all year no matter how open he is.
Agree on Fuller
Permament red light. He needs to adapt the Ezeli Doctrine for the remainder of the season. I’d love to see him get better over the offseason, but seriously, no more.
But on that note, I have a new factor on my reasons to love Festus list. 3 years, not one 3 attempt. I can respect that.

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