Saturday Predictions: Vanderbilt at Florida
There's not much to like about playing in the swamp. The Commodores haven't won there since 1945 - a victory whose celebration led to the amazing population growth later known as the baby boom. Ben Hill Griffin Stadium is only known for two things in Nashville; vicious Commodore beatdowns and questionable excessive celebration flags.
This year holds the promise to be different. Jordan Rodgers has led Vanderbilt within eight points of a 6-2 record over his last three weeks at the helm. Games against Georgia and Arkansas were a coin flip away from falling to Vandy's advantage and putting this team on the national radar. Head coach James Franklin has done an incredible job of turning this team around, and while that's been reflected by his 4-4 record, the place it shines through the most is on the field.
Vanderbilt's players have hit the turf in 2011 with a fire that fans simply didn't see under Robbie Caldwell or even Bobby Johnson. The defense, which was so worn down in 2010 that the fourth quarter of Vandy games turned into inevitable blowouts, has become the catalyst of Commodore comebacks. The offense, which would slow to half-speed if the team couldn't sustain drives early on, has found the fuel to be effective for a full 60 minutes against top ten teams. In short, these players have found a new gear, and Franklin and his crew are making sure that they use it, regardless of opponent.
The 'Dores will have their best chance to upset Florida in the swamp since World War II as a result. The Gators are working through a down year that has seen them lose four straight games. A fifth - to Vanderbilt, no less - would signify one of the worst slumps Gatordom has ever faced. They'll host the Commodores in a homecoming game that could be a defining moment in Will Muschamp's first season in Gainesville. Motivation won't be in question for this contest. This isn't a trap game, and Vanderbilt won't be able to take Florida by surprise. Instead, we'll get two teams battling for relevancy and their spot in the middle of the SEC totem pole.
If Vanderbilt wins, it will put them in third place in the SEC East and one game away from bowl eligibility. If Florida wins, it will stop the bleeding of a cruel October (just one season away from quoting Bananarama there). Emotions will be running high for both teams, and there's more at stake than meets the eye. So who will come out ahead? We've got our wholly speculative predictions after the jump.
Train Island: Ah, Gainesville, the land of 30 point spreads. Vanderbilt's futile efforts in the swamp haven't gone unnoticed. The team is a 13-point underdog even though each squad sits at 4-4 coming into Saturday's matchup. Florida will have John Brantley ready to go at quarterback, but he's gimpy enough to inspire this fanshot at Alligator Army, awesomely subtitled How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love My One-Legged Quarterback.
Brantley may not be 100 percent, but he's still much better than the rag-tag tandem that led the Gators to losses against LSU and Auburn. He also doesn't have the kind of big arm that has been tearing up the Commodores for 300 yard passing games lately. When Vandy last saw him, he coolly ate Robbie Caldwell's team up for 157 yards and two touchdowns in a 55-14 beatdown that was somehow more lopsided than the final score suggests.
Brantley's impact will be tangible, but the key for the Commodores will lie in stopping Florida's running game. Chris Rainey is the devastating kind of quick tailback who will probably punch one in with under a minute remaining in the first half to deflate Vandy's chances of winning. Jeff Demps is another diminutive speedster who will cause more and more problems the further he gets from the line of scrimmage. Either one could gash the 'Dores if there is a lapse in defensive line play.
Fortunately for Vanderbilt, that's one area that this team has excelled in lately. They held Arkansas to 72 yards on 26 carries and kept Georgia to 114 yards on 34 carries. If they can hold Florida to around three yards per rush, then they'll give this team's offense plenty of opportunities to win the game Saturday.
Normally, that's where things would get pessimistic for the 'Dores, but what's not to be excited about with this offense? Last week, Jordan Rodgers proved that he can execute efficiently against a top SEC squad. The Vanderbilt team that put up 28 points on Arkansas didn't do it behind gadget plays and trickery, they did it behind a stout running game, great blocking, and on-target passing. In fact, you could argue that 28 points was essentially the minimum amount that this team could have scored last week thanks to some terrible luck and bad mistakes.
So will Vanderbilt replicate that performance? Can Zac Stacy pull out another 100 yard rushing game? Can Jordan Rodgers throw for over 200 yards without an interception? Is Jordan Matthews truly the #1 receiver he showed signs of being against Arkansas? These guys did it last week, and if they can do it again, they won't end up on the wrong side of a heartbreaker this time. Florida's defense will make things more difficult for the 'Dores, but make no mistake - this team is capable of hanging with the Gators in a high-scoring affair.
Who would have seen that coming at the beginning of the season?
TI's pick: Vanderbilt 33, Florida 27
TI's SEC Upset Pick of the Week: South Carolina over Arkansas. It's a rough spate of SEC picks this week, with very few interesting underdogs out there. The Gamecocks are without Marcus Lattimore, but they've still shown to be the stronger squad throughout the season. Case in point - Steve Spurrier's squad overcame four Vandy interceptions to dominate the Commodores. Arkansas, on the other hand, needed four Vandy to drop four interceptions to pull out a comeback win in Nashville.
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KingJamesIV: Vandy hasn't won in the swamp since before my father was born. My grandfather was a member of that team. NINETEEN HUNDRED FORTY FIVE AAAAY DEEEE. Winning World War II was apparently less daunting a task. How else can you explain the last thirty-plus attempts? I'll spare rehashing the 2005 Earl-Bennett-penalty-in-the-endzone debacle. The night terrors are so bloody terrifying and depressing.
Despite a couple of frustrating near-win misses, Vandy has only lost to ranked teams this season. South Carolina and Alabama on the road (both top ten). Georgia and Arkansas at home. And we should could have been undefeated at home.
For the first time in my memory, Vanderbilt is getting better as the season progresses. Pick a year since 1982 where the team wasn't horribly ravaged by injuries physically and suffering from a severe deficit of self-confidence mentally. Impossible.
James Franklin is a witch. How else can you explain it? He's got a boiling cauldron filled with the scraps of all our victims -- the rotting chunks of Hog and Dawg we took in body blows we delivered in virtually deadlocked skirmishes. He's feeding this wicked brew to the Commodores. It has their confidence growing. It heals them. Yet it doesn't sustain them. They grow hungrier each week.
Consider where these two teams were a year ago. Florida is on the decline; Vanderbilt, the ascendancy. If ever there was a time to march into the bowels of the swamp and walk out with the severed head of our opponent, this is it.
We are Beowulf.
KJIV's pick: Vanderbilt 38, Florida 31
KJIV's SEC Upset Pick of the Week: Middle Tennessee over Tennessee. Specifically for the potential schadenfreude.
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I don’t know if VU wins outright, but they will cover the 13 1/2 pt spread…..bet the house!
Well, the Gators are 4-4 ATS this year. Vandy is 6-2.
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I can't swear to it...
…but it seems like there was a streak in the mid-90s where we went something ridiculous like 13-0 ATS vs top 25 opponents. I could be hallucinating that, but it sounds familiar. This team reminds me of those defensively, but the offense today is light-years beyond where it was in the Widenhofer era and no foolin’.
"Well, if that ain't a show, I'll kiss your ass." - Gov. Jim Folsom Sr. (D-AL), 1948-52
That’s pretty impressive. Because of what you said … I looked at Vanderbilt since 1992. It doesn’t show against Top 25 (somewhat surprisingly) : http://www.playersonly.com/statfeed/betting/statfeed.php?page=cfb/expanded&gameid=20111105FLORIDA
Since 1992 Vanderbilt … among others ATS:
Vandy is 100-106 in all games
Vandy is 80-78 as an underdog
Vandy is 9-5 as a road underdog when the spread is 10.5-14 points.
Vandy is 51-44 in all road games
Vandy is 77-81 in all games played on natural grass
That’s very impressive.
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Moral victory + ill-gotten financial gain. That is the most Vanderbilt thing ever. =)
"Well, if that ain't a show, I'll kiss your ass." - Gov. Jim Folsom Sr. (D-AL), 1948-52
by VandyImport on Nov 4, 2011 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Haha, yeah … we’ve (or at least I have) been that way this year. I’ve bet against the Gators a couple of times and walked away financially happy.
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BTW, thanks for the link, those are some amazing numbers
The one that jumps out:
Since 1992, Florida is 19-0 against Vanderbilt
Since 1992, Vanderbilt is 10-9 against the spread vs. Florida
GIT MONEY.
"Well, if that ain't a show, I'll kiss your ass." - Gov. Jim Folsom Sr. (D-AL), 1948-52
Yet another reason why this game scares me.
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I cannot handle
all of the analysts picking this as an upset pick. (not including you guys) I feel like everyone is trying to jinx us.
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The 13 point spread is preposterous.
Florida’s offense scored 13 points total vs. Georgia. 6 vs. Auburn, 11 vs. LSU, and 10 vs. Bama.
How that’s supposed to change into a 13 point margin of victory is beyond me. We thought last year was the modern nadir of Florida football, but somehow they’ve managed to out-awful even the Adazzio experiment.
The defense has improved greatly as the season has gone along, but the offense is so bad it’s been somewhat hard to notice.
As for the Swamp, I don’t think it will be a huge factor. It’s a noon kick off for a Gator team on a four game losing streak. It’s going to be about as quiet as it’s ever been for an SEC game.
Oh, come on. Don't leave your uncle T-bag hangin'.
You mean your fans aren't opening the tailgate lots at 6AM for Vanderbilt?
I find that hard to believe.
I think Brantley has a nice comeback this game. Vandy’s made a lot of good QBs look great in the SEC so far (exception: a drunk Stephen Garcia) so I think we’ll see a fair amount of offense Saturday.
by Christian D'Andrea on Nov 4, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I used to live across from Norman field
which is one of the biggest tailgating lots on campus. Those guys seemed to fill it up by 8 am even if the opponent was the Sisters of the Poor.
Unfortunately our decades-long sellout streak came to end earlier this year, and I wouldn’t be surprised if it isn’t full tomorrow. Even if it’s a technical sellout, there will be plenty of no shows. If any of you guys are going, don’t worry about tickets. The scalpers will be giving them away by kick off.
UF’s offense is fundamentally broken. They can’t do anything. They can’t pass, they can’t run, they can barely get the snap off without a penalty (#1 in the nation in penalties! Whooo!). Seemingly every time they manage to move the ball ten yards they fumble it.
This is easily the worst Gator team I’ve seen. And I was there for Zook.
Oh, come on. Don't leave your uncle T-bag hangin'.
We're not talking Galen Hall era, are we?
I think the talent disparity is still too much, but if Brantley’s not on his game and Rainey can’t play, that would be mitigated somewhat. I think this could actually be a fairly low-scoring game – which, unfortunately for us, increases the odds that one bad play would be enough to lose.
Best part is I have to be up at 9 AM for this one. WEST COAST Y’ALL.
"Well, if that ain't a show, I'll kiss your ass." - Gov. Jim Folsom Sr. (D-AL), 1948-52
Trap game.
Both ways. For Florida it’s a trap – an early start against a rising and hungry team, while the Gators are on a slide and the fans are unenthused (and already anticipating taking a pounding from Florida State and maybe missing a bowl). If they don’t have their heart in it, things could get away from them quickly, especially if Rainey can’t go.
But for Vandy, it’s a HUGE trap – everyone talking them up, they start believing they’re going to walk out with it, and run into the teeth of a desperate Florida team looking at their last chance to get off the SEC mat.
I’m convinced we CAN win. I’m not persuaded we WILL. If the game were in Nashville, it would be different, but I think the crowd and the home-clockin’ (AVENGE EARL BENNETT) could keep Florida alive long enough to wake up and get it together. We’re going to have to play like hell – no more dropping pick-sixes, no more drive-killing fumbles, no more shanked field goals, no more wild overthrows – and we’re going to need a win that doesn’t hinge on converting a trick play or overcoming a blunder in the 4th quarter.
But you can smell the fear all the way from Gainesville. And that gives me hope that maybe, just maybe, we finally get to shock the world.
"Well, if that ain't a show, I'll kiss your ass." - Gov. Jim Folsom Sr. (D-AL), 1948-52
THIS IS EXACTLY HOW I FEEL
I have been trying to formulate a opinion on how this game will go and you sir have taken the words out of my mouth.
1000 cocktails and a hearty harrumph to you!
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Lets go VU
I am guardedly optimistic that if we can start well then we can end the dismal swamp episode.
I think we can do it...
But I’m nevous as heck! If we lose though when have we ever gone into the swamp thinking we have any chance? So rather than be nervous I be all in and have a bottle of Scotch by my side just in case.
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