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Vanderbilt Basketball Positional Preview: Shooting Guard

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John Jenkins doesn't have a spot on Vanderbilt's all-time scoring leaders list. Yet.

The junior guard is 36 points away from 1,000 on his career. If he scores as many points as he did last year, he'll end the season as Vandy's ninth-most prolific scorer in school history. If he keeps that pace up for his senior year, he'll eclipse Shan Foster's career record by over 200 points and likely get his number raised to the rafters at Memorial Gym.

Of course, that fourth year is the tricky part.

Jenkins enters his third season in black and gold as a trendy pick for SEC Player of the Year and a borderline NBA Draft first-round pick. If he can showcase his developing abilities to create his own shot and defend, then he could conceivably play his way into the Lottery and into some fat professional paychecks. His rising stock, combined with the upcoming departures of Festus Ezeli, Jeffery Taylor, Brad Tinsley, Lance Goulbourne, and Steve Tchiengang, make the probability of his return to campus for a senior season increasingly slim. Vanderbilt fans may have to address a tough reality this preseason - the only way we'll get JJ23 back for 2013 is if he stinks in 2012.

The 2011-2012 season may be the beginning of the John Jenkins farewell tour, but the expectations are high for what kind of show he'll put on. The Hendersonville native has progressed in each of his years in Nashville, developing into a preseason All-American behind a scoring game that's evolved from just long-range shooting. However, the presence of a high-profile recruit should help free up Jenkins's game even more. Even better, Dai-Jon Parker could ensure that the shooting guard position is secure for another three years into the future.

The Starter: John Jenkins - Jenkins may be the best pure shooter in college basketball today. His lightning-quick catch-and-shoot technique means that opposing defenders have to stay in his pocket all game. His expansive shooting range means that they'll be chasing him through screens and across the court for 35 exhausting minutes per game.

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Jenkins's shooting form is a masterpiece of efficiency. His compact release gets the ball from his hips to the air in one quick motion, making his perimeter shots difficult to block. He's also shown an increased ability to put the ball on the floor and get to the basket. Though it's not his primary weapon, he can exploit a defender's over-committal to get to the rim and finish efficiently. This has helped him get to the line more (he increased his attempted free throws from about two per game to five last season), where he's nearly automatic (89.4%).

Defensively, he doesn't have the lateral quickness or tenacity to be an elite guard, but he plays well enough that it isn't a detriment for this team. However, being paired up with another average defender in Brad Tinsley made the Commodore backcourt the team's weakest link when it came to getting stops in 2010-2011. The pair allowed marginal players like Bruce Ellington and Rotnei Clarke look like All-Americans in upset losses last season. Fortunately, the arrival of Dai-Jon Parker should help ease the burden on Jenkins to create defensive pressure this season.

The Back-up: Dai-Jon Parker - Parker comes to Nashville with some lofty expectations to live up to. He's the team's highest-rated recruit since John Jenkins and potentially the second-best high school player to come to Nashville in the past decade. His reputation as a hard-nosed player who loves to play defense made him a must-get for a team whose toughness has been questioned repeatedly. The fact that he's a top-level recruit at the team's thinnest position didn't hurt either.

Parker will be called upon to fill rotation minutes from his first game on campus. He's a bit undersized for a shooting guard at 6'3", but his quickness and physical play make up for this limitation. His lateral speed may be the best on this team's, and he and Jeffery Taylor should make a dynamite wing combination when the Commodores need a stop.

Offensively, he's a streaky shooter whose high school game resembled Alex "F-ing" Gordon's (though without the same level of ballhandling). He can pull up and hit threes from almost anywhere inside half court, and his ability to get down the court will make him an explosive option on fast breaks. His quickness gives him the ability to get to the rim on drives or create space for step-back jumpers. While it's yet to be seen how this will translate to NCAA play, it's a safe bet that he'll provide a strong change-of-pace option to Jenkins.

That will be Parker's main objective his freshman season. He'll be called on to defend to remove some of that pressure from Jenkins and used to open the floor with his attacking offense if Jeffery Taylor can't get to the rim. His goal will be to keep other teams off-balance while creating an atmosphere in which guys like Taylor and Jenkins can thrive. His success probably won't be accurately gauged by statistics, but in how this team executes down the stretch. If he can pull it off, he could end up being as important to this team as any of the five seniors.

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by CorneliusHimself on Oct 25, 2011 12:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Jenkins Improved Defense
G John Jenkins’ stifling defense in the preseason prompted coach Kevin Stallings to joke that he’s going to place a call to Purdue coach Matt Painter. Jenkins was coached by Painter in the World University Games. "He didn’t guard anyone last year and now he’s guarding as well as anyone on our team," Stallings said.

via this link.

Also,

After leading the United States in scoring at the World University Games, G John Jenkins has improved in all facets of his game, coach Kevin Stallings said. "It’s amazing that his shooting can get better," Stallings said. “His game off the dribble has gotten quicker and faster.”

via this link

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by KingJamesIV on Oct 25, 2011 12:39 PM EDT reply actions  

That is why it's a fallacy...

to assume that just because we are returning the same team we had last year, that we will have the same issues we had last year. If nobody returning improved, it would be the first time since I’ve followed the program – yet that seems to be the operating assumption when those who rank us in the top ten then turn around and question their own ranking. Also, we go from a team with zero senior leadership to 5 senior leaders. Finally, we got from a team that had a hard 8 man rotation (with two of the backups playing a bit out of position) to a team that could play 11 or 12 players, with little difference in talent level among the 5 or 6 bench players. There will be fewer cases of players having to play out of position, especially in the post.

If you listen to the interview on the official site of CKS prior to the Madness event, he notes at the end that every player who is returning has improved. This is from a team that came closest to beating UK at Rupp playing all five starters between 30-38 minutes, coming back from a 15+ point deficit.

There is a legitimate arguement that can be made that we are probably being underrated even as we are consistently ranked within the top 10 by most who have put out a ranking. I don’t think it is a coincidence that Gary Parrish wrote a glowing article about the team following him watching a practice.

by Jason Fukuda on Oct 25, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone else thinking about next year?

This year is going to be incredible and I think we will stay a legit top 10 threat.

But is anyone else noticing the lack of recruiting for next year’s class? We lose Jeff, Lance, Festus, Brad, and Steve no matter what and we probably lose John. Six players is hard to replace. With Kendren, Dai-Jon, Rod, & Kyle in the background it helps some. If Josh & James can step up it helps but we have serious needs next year and we’re losing recruits to SMU!!! Stallings needs to lock in Alex but the more and more we get into this the more it looks like he’s a Gator.

by VandyGold28 on Oct 26, 2011 12:29 PM EDT reply actions  

What makes you say that, because I’ve literally heard in the last 2 days that he was leaning toward Vandy or UK, and another person who said he was leaning toward Vandy or Memphis.

I think the moral of the story is no one really has a clue what the kid is up to. Scary, but I just don’t think there is much public information about what’s happening in his head.

But yeah, a lot of us have been thinking about it. I think we need 3 players for next year, we’ve got one. We need Poythress, but I am sure that, if they are at all still listening, we are still talking to all those big 4 who recently committed elsewhere.

I have no idea when any transfer stuff goes down, but if we don’t steal one of the guys committed elsewhere, we could really use a transfer.

by The Goche on Oct 26, 2011 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it appears to be between Vandy and UK. Just judging from who we have offers out to and who is seriously considering Vandy, if Poythress picks UK, next years class is in a little trouble. I think the Poythress decision is big not only in terms of where the team is headed in the next couple of years, but is a very good indicator of where the program actually stands and it’s potential to consistently reach this level. Here we have a local kid (Clarksville), who has a former AAU teammate on the squad (Kedren Johnson) and is making his decision in a year when the team is being hyped more than it ever has (at least in recent memory). Honestly, if we can’t get five star recruits under those circumstances, then it’s not likely to ever happen (or at least any time soon). As great a job as CK has done, if he can’t get hometown 5 star recruits as a top 10 team, then this year’s squad is probably as good as it’s going to get.

by henryshort on Oct 26, 2011 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

If we get him it’s a great job by CKS with the local guys, but really, if one local guy, especially one who ended up blowing up and getting more high level attention than he expected, is drawn away by the big team lore, you can’t take that one guy as a very strong indication of where you stand (though it certainly would be big blow to where we are going).

Yeah it would suck big time, and could set us back a few years, but sometimes a guy just wants different things than you offer. Sometimes you do everything right and you don’t get the guy.

by The Goche on Oct 26, 2011 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

And sometimes you get whored by the administration...

I well remember the case of Ron Mercer, best friend of Drew Maddux, local guy, eager to Vanderbilt, commits – and then it turns out the admissions office says his grades aren’t up to snuff. And where did he wind up? Blue Mist.

I have a sense that everybody is on the same page now and we’re not putting all our eggs in the baskets of guys who can’t get into the school, but man, those VBK years were a little crazy-making…

"Well, if that ain't a show, I'll kiss your ass." - Gov. Jim Folsom Sr. (D-AL), 1948-52

by VandyImport on Oct 26, 2011 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ron Mercer

That was a freaking debacle. He wanted to come here. A good kid. A local kid. 5 star recruit. Somehow, the idiots who reviewed his application decided he wasnt academically suited. I have no idea how coach VBK didn’t personally walk his application over to make suire it got through.

He ends up going to UK and then was a lottery pick.

by Ridgelake on Oct 27, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

“if Poythress picks UK, next years class is in a little trouble. I think the Poythress decision is big not only in terms of where the team is headed in the next couple of years, but is a very good indicator of where the program actually stands and it’s potential to consistently reach this level. Here we have a local kid (Clarksville), who has a former AAU teammate on the squad (Kedren Johnson) and is making his decision in a year when the team is being hyped more than it ever has (at least in recent memory). Honestly, if we can’t get five star recruits under those circumstances, then it’s not likely to ever happen (or at least any time soon).”

Not to copy the majority of your post but you really said it all there. If they can’t reel in a 5-star under these circumstances, when will they ever be able to reel one in?

by revurbnation on Oct 27, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just don’t see how one guy, who’s decision is a matter of personal preference, is a big enough sample size to say VU is incapable of getting a 5 star.

I do agree though that if we don’t get him, it may take a while to build back up the level that we are really competitive to that level of recruit.

by The Goche on Oct 27, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I had said that b/c I don’t have a rivals subscription or anything and the website showed only a Florida visit and nothing else. Apparently last week and this week he’s been busy. He described his “Big Blue Madness” as an “amazing experience”. I’m sure it is. Hard to compete w/ that but we should still have a shot at the kid. If we don’t, we’re in some trouble.

by VandyGold28 on Oct 27, 2011 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, well, if it makes you feel better, all you’d know if you were on Rivals is that we don’t have any clue. You can get a really good idea about lots of guys on there, but basketball is tougher than football because with so few guys there is so much less news.

The good thing is, anyone is going to be impressed with the midnight madness at big schools, but he didn’t commit right there either. He has good relationships with the people here, the players, the coaches, etc. That stuff doesn’t make exciting news stories, “Recruiting news: Poythress talks to Tchiengang on Twitter,” but it matters. He visited here, he liked it, he’s been here many times on unofficials. He’s comfortable here.

The other fact is that there just aren’t as many stories about kids considering Vandy. There isn’t some Vandy recruiting obsession that newspapers are desperate to take advantage of as there is in UK. Additionally, a lot of that stuff is driven by the team’s Rivals and Scout. Our guys (at least our Rivals guys, I don’t have Scout) take a very journalistic approach whereas the guys covering other schools basically become recruiters themselves.

Our guys will try hard to get interviews with these recruits, but they won’t hound the kids. Our guys ask how the visit was, whereas lots of others are pushing the recruits, both by making the case for the school in their questions, and by getting the kids to say great things about the school and to not say anything good about opposing schools.

Some of the UT sites actually go out of their way to minimize or completely exclude the fact that a kid is considering Vandy. (Example: This happened I believe right before Kimbrow, Batey and Azubike committed that one of the Vol sites posted a story about one of the guys and his upcoming decision and didn’t even include Vandy in the list of schools he was considering.)

I don’t think it’s a recruiting disadvantage not to have our reporters manipulating kids and manipulating stories, but it does mean that there aren’t a million stories out there about everything Poythress ever liked about Vandy, and it does mean that if a guys isn’t searching out attention, it may be really tough to keep up with what he’s thinking.

by The Goche on Oct 27, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

A GATOR?!

I can understand losing recruits to UK. But Florida? Despite winning two national championships, no one really seems to care about the basketball program down there.

And yes, the lack of known recruits is disconcerting to me. We’ve got one guy so far to replace 6. I don’t want a class full of middle of the road recruits. I don’t want to rely on Spring signees. Tell me there’s someone else coming.

by revurbnation on Oct 26, 2011 12:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Same thing happened with UF last year

Casey Prather was a highly rated recruit from Jackson, and wound up signing with Florida instead.

by parlagi on Oct 26, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mens BBall Schedule for iCal?

Anybody know of a place where I can download the entire 2011-2012 mens basketball schedule to iCal (or any other electronic calendar, like Google Calendar, for that matter)? I thought I remembered the official Vandy athletics website having something like that last year, but I haven’t found it yet this year. A lot easier than entering in all these games by hand.

by DoubleDore on Oct 26, 2011 1:33 PM EDT reply actions  

I think this is what you're looking for

It says 2010-11 at the top, but both basketball teams’ schedules are definitely for this season.

http://www.vucommodores.com/ot/outlook-calendar.html

by parlagi on Oct 26, 2011 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Check this out

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/teams/vac/schedule

The .ICS link is a common format that should be importable into most any calendar, but the Yahoo page also includes direct links for Yahoo calendar and iCal support, if you’re into that sort of thing ;]

"Well, if that ain't a show, I'll kiss your ass." - Gov. Jim Folsom Sr. (D-AL), 1948-52

by VandyImport on Oct 26, 2011 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Awesome

Thanks. Both of those were just what I needed.

by DoubleDore on Oct 27, 2011 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

On DJP

This kid is already one of my favorites. If you haven’t seen the video of him clowning around at Memorial Madness, it is quite clear that the kid has some personality.

A great example of what makes Vandy athletes so fun to root for.

by The Goche on Oct 27, 2011 12:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Wayin about Vandy

Everybody has an opinion, whats yours?

http://www.wayin.com/#!/games/9087cf39-4e77-4744-9fd9-820f4bd95fa8

by milehighmillionare on Nov 7, 2011 1:40 PM EST reply actions  

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