Will Jeffery Taylor's Return Impact A.J. Ogilvy's Pro Decision?
One half of the puzzle is complete. Yesterday, Jeffery Taylor declared his intention to stay at Vanderbilt for the 2010-2011 season. However, one big question still remains - will A.J. Ogilvy stay, or will he go?
Ogilvy is a junior and has yet to declare for the draft, so he has plenty of options in 2010. Don't be surprised if he declares and doesn't hire an agent in order to feel out the scouting process. If he can wow GMs in workouts and get a first round guarantee from a NBA team, don't expect the big man to return to Nashville. However, after a mediocre 2009-2010 and with a game that translates much better on the court than in workouts, the first round of the 2010 draft is probably a longshot. If he isn't pleased with the advice of scouts, then he'll be able to pull his name from the draft and return to Vanderbilt - as long as he doesn't hire an agent.
Taylor's return can be viewed in two ways for Ogilvy. The first, and most beneficial to the Commodores, would be that having The Monarch* man the wing would raise Vanderbilt's profile, and in turn would increase the attention on the big man. A rising tide lifts all ships, and playing on a potential Sweet Sixteen team would give the Australian Sheik* additional media focus and additional chances to impress NBA scouts in order to raise his draft stock. For a player needing to wow some scouts, being a top player on an elite team could do just that. The extra year would also give him the time he needs to put together a consistent season and add some additional facets to his overall game.
Conversely, the other line of thought would be that Taylor's presence would have a negative impact on A.J.. The swingman's decision to stay may challenge Ogilvy's alpha dog status, limiting his chances to grab the spotlight and inflate his statistics. Additionally, Taylor's absence from the draft leaves one fewer player that would be in line for a draft pick ahead of the Aussie, who is generally thought to be a mid-second round pick. This could suggest that 2010 presents the best opportunity for Ogilvy to leave.
The negatives might be short sighted. Though Taylor's presence would affect Ogilvy's amount of touches inside, pro scouts understand that statistics and averages are just a small part of the puzzle. Instead, what they'll be looking at is A.J.'s ability to defend against more athletic big men and if he can add more moves to an already advanced post game. These were two areas that showed little development in 2009-2010, and ideally Ogilvy would opt for another year in the pivot to hone his game - and maybe even get some reps at power forward to showcase some versatility. Above all else, the best way to secure a NBA contract is to become a superior player, and while A.J. has shown great talent, he still hasn't put all the tools together to showcase a unique skillset to bring to the highest level.
In the beginning of the off-season, it appeared that Taylor and Ogilvy were probably going to be a package duo. If one left, the other would likely follow since the departure of either man would distinctly weaken the Commodores in 2010-2011. Having The Monarch* back makes this team stronger, and if teams are keying in on him and John Jenkins on the perimeter, it should help open things up in the interior for A.J. Ogilvy to make some noise. On the other hand, we thought that same thing would happen once Jermaine Beal caught fire early in the season, but instead were faced with inconsistent play from Vanderbilt's best man in the paint.
The risk that Ogilvy leaves is still very real, but it appears that the odds that he'll stay just got a little better with Taylor's intent to return. Much like his sophomore counterpart, Ogilvy would be better served with another year of college ball in order to increase his level of play and secure guaranteed money with a first round draft pick. However, as a big man, the need for players like A.J. is much more dire and despite a lower level of talent, a team needing a center could make him a guarantee and feed him rotation minutes as a rookie. You can't blame the young Australian for wanting to live out his dream and earn a fat paycheck while doing it, but you can root against him in workouts to keep him in Nashville for one more year. That's what I'll be doing, because the Commodores need their senior leader to finally get them back to the Elite Eight and beyond.
*Official AoG approved nicknames. Much like Gretchen Weiners and "fetch", we're going to make these work, dammit.
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Going pro != NBA
My fear that AJ Ogilvy will be drafted, be it 1st round or 2nd round, and decide to leave for the NBA is minimal. My fear that he will decide to play in another country is substantial.
I guess fear isn’t even the right word. If he’s burned out on volunteer basketball and not motivated to spend his senior year winning college championships, I wish him well. He’d be a valuable player, but not nearly as valuable as if he were motivated to win championships.
A solid point
If he just wants a paycheck, then there are several opportunities, but I think he’s smart enough to understand that the NBA provides the greatest sense of security and potential fame. Even if he’s burnt out he’ll know that he’s got to raise his stock to make himself more marketable. Once he goes to Europe (or elsewhere), he’s probably thrown away his shot at playing stateside (at least in the NBA). If he was going to go abroad, I think he would have done it by now.
Taylor, on the other hand, could go overseas and actually raise his stock, based on his potential. Given that, I think since JT has stayed, AJ will as well, but who knows what he’s thinking.
Throwing away shot at playing stateside
Once he goes to Europe (or elsewhere), he’s probably thrown away his shot at playing stateside (at least in the NBA).
I don’t think that’s warranted. Admittedly I can’t think offhand of examples of a player playing in college in the US, leaving the country, and coming back to play in the NBA. But if Andrew is good enough to make it in the NBA in a couple of years, I expect he’ll get his shot. If he’s as stagnant in his pro career as he’s been in college, then that probably won’t be an option.
If there was still any residual bias toward US college vs. foreign pro leagues, I think Brandon Jennings’ success has blown it away.
some players have done it well
But the overall success rate is pretty limited for a player with 2+ years of college experience. Anthony parker comes to mind, but I’d still put the odds of playing his way to the nba via europe at 5-10%. Its been done, but history suggests that its not likely.
by Train Island on Apr 3, 2010 3:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Alright, I'll say it.
AJ Ogilvy is not an NBA caliber player. Not by any stretch. After his freshman year, we all thought he was, but now we all know he isn’t. Quite frankly, I feel indifferent about his leaving or staying. He may give us some nice moments, but this guy is inconsequential when it comes to difference making tournament level games.
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