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A.J.'s Folly? A Look at A.J. Ogilvy's Place in the NBA Draft - Part II

A.J. Ogilvy declared his intention to leave Vanderbilt last week, based on the premise that he'd be a first round pick in the 2010 NBA Draft. On Friday we took a look at the competition Ogilvy would face from his underclassman colleagues for a guaranteed contract. Today, we'll look at the graduating seniors and overseas prospects who will be vying for first round selections this summer, and how their presence will impact A.J.'s draft stock.

Top prospect seniors are tough to come by in 2010. Between Draft Express, nbadraft.net, and Chad Ford, there are no seniors projected to be lottery picks, and only one or two European players that figure to be snapped up in the first half of the first round. While there are few sure-fire first rounders in these picks, there are several players that look to be on the first round bubble - slightly ahead of where A.J. Ogilvy currently projects to be. These good - but not great - players stand to further muddy the draft waters for the big Australian. These four year players and international prospects make up a big chunk of the of projected late-first, early-second round picks that could cause the big man's stock to drop.

Currently, only four players in this group seem to be first round locks - although Quincy Pondexter is the most likely of the four to slip out of the category. Along with the 14 locks from the declared underclassmen, plus Georgia Tech's Derrick Favors, who recently entered the draft, and this brings the total to 18 sure fire first round picks - excluding Pondexter for argument's sake.

Likely First Round Locks 
Player School/country
Stanley Robinson Connecticut
Quincy Pondexter Washington
Jan Vesely Czech Republic
Donatas Motiejunas Lithuania

However, when examining the borderline first round talent, this list grows considerably. Suddenly, Ogilvy finds himself competing with other solid, but flawed, big men who stand to be early-to-mid second round picks. Tulsa's Jerome Jordan, Radford's Artsiom Parakhouski, and Seattle's Charles Garcia (edit: Garcia is a junior who has declared) now come onto the radar as relatively unknown big men who played well against lower level competition and have turned themselves into intriguing x-factor picks. More established players like Brian Zoubek (thanks to his NCAA Tournament performances), Luke Harangody, Dexter Pittman, and Omar Samhan are also in the mix and have higher profiles and better NCAA resumes than Ogilvy. Further crowding the big man scene are international players like Serbia's Miroslav Raduljica and Brazil's Paulao Prestes, who offer high potential at little cost, but with big risk. Without a doubt, the late-first and second rounds of the NBA Draft will feature several experienced big men and high potential prospects from overseas.

 

Star-divide

Big Men Likely to be 2nd Round Picks
Player School/Country
Trevor Booker Clemson
Wayne Chism Tennessee
Dwayne Collins Miami (FL)
Luke Harangody Notre Dame
Jerome Jordan Tulsa
Art Parakhouski Radford
Dexter Pittman Texas
Paulao Prestes Brazil
Miroslav Raduljica Serbia
Omar Samhan St. Mary's
Kevin Seraphin France
Jarvis Varnado Mississippi State
Brian Zoubek Duke

The preceding list showcases A.J. Ogilvy's primary competition for sneaking into the tail end of the first round. The Australian likely falls somewhere in the back/middle of that pack at the moment - behind Jordan, Parakhouski, and Varnado and placed with guys like Chism, Samhan, and Pittman in the category of talented but ultimately flawed players whose games may not translate to the more athletic NBA. This list of counterparts isn't packed with world-beaters; it's tough to imagine that even the guys at the top of this tier of players would get a first round pick.

This group also offers a smaller selection of overall late-first/early-second round prospects that aren't big men. Players like Greivis Vasquez, Lazar Hayward, and Damion James will all get long looks from scouts due to their impressive four year careers - with their leadership skills helping to fill some of the gaps that limited athleticism, size, or potential may present in their draft portfolios.

Other Seniors/Int on the bubble/early 2nd
Player School/Country
Damion James Texas
Aubrey Coleman Houston
Sherron Collins Kansas
Da'Sean Butler* West Virginia
Lazar Hayward Marquette
Nemanja Bjelica Serbia
Jerome Dyson Connecticut
Scottie Reynolds Villanova

Clearly this overall grouping of seniors and international players offers a lower level of talent but is laden with tough but flawed big men - including A.J. Ogilvy. A look at the underclassmen of 2010 offered up 29 potential first round picks. This list of seniors and international players only offers about six potential first round picks (Vesely, Motiejunas, Robinson, Pondexter, James, and Varnado, pending workouts), but that still bumps the number of players with legitimate first round aspirations to 35. There are only 30 slots in the first round of the NBA Draft.

Ogilvy is a member of an extraordinarily deep class of big men, and so far he's put himself directly in the middle of the mediocre third tier players. Based on his competition, an early second round pick looks to be his ceiling based solely on the talent of the players in front of him. One of the arguments in A.J.'s favor is his size, which could have an impact since he plays a position of need; however, even if teams are clamoring for centers and power forwards towards the end of the first round, they'll have plenty of strong choices to sort through before they get to A.J. Ogilvy.

Can the Australian Sheik be a first round pick in 2010? We can't say for sure without workouts and with time yet for players to jump in or out of the draft, but it seems unlikely. Though he has physical gifts, his weaknesses defensively and a stubborn inability to progress as a player while at Vanderbilt drop him behind several of his peers who have shown a greater capacity to grow. Additionally, without a strong history of leadership and few highlights from big games, he might even fall to the back of the third tier of players in the paint. We'll take a greater look at the overall depth of the big man class in the next installment, and take a look at where exactly A.J. lies in the pack of centers and power forwards jumping to the pros.

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Lottery Pick
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Mid-to-Late First Round
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Early Second Round
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Late Second Round
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Undrafted
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Has anyone given any consideration to the fact that AJ himself knows that he will not likely be a first or 2nd round draft pick? I think this is just his own passive aggressive way to leave Vandy and college basketball without having to actually tell us why he’s leaving. I think, for whatever reason, AJ decided that his problem was not himself.. but was Vanderbilt. I think he didn’t want to come back over the summer and put in hard work on his game, I think mentally he was not tough enough to be the leader that Vandy coaches and fans would want him to be…and that this is way to get out of all of that.

 I think he’s homesick. He has already said that no matter what (drafted or not) that he will not be finishing his degree at Vandy and that he will likely do it in Australia. I also think he knows that if he doesn’t get drafted that he can go home and make good money and be a pretty productive player and hometown hero.. dominating guys in the Australian league where their centers are 6’8. I also think that he didn’t get along great with many of the guys on the team, I get the feeling that there were chemistry issues.

by Treymour on Apr 11, 2010 7:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Absolutely

You make some solid points.

Word has it behind the scenes that he was unhappy and didn’t get along with Stallings (doesn’t seem to be much of a stretch). I’m sure he’d love playing in Australia, but the money dictates that he try his hand in the NBA first. If that doesn’t shake out, I think he’ll spend some time in Europe before Australia just due to the paychecks and level of competition.

Do I really believe A.J. thinks he’s a first round pick? Tough to say, but I’m pretty sure that there are a lot of Vanderbilt-related factors that prompted his decision more than the money and lure of playing in the NBA. AJ’s career is going to be really interesting to look back on and put all the pieces together to explain his time in Nashville.

I will say that I don’t think putting in the work is an issue for him. Leadership, maybe, but his willingness to play for the Australian National Team (through trials before being cut) shows that he has no problem putting in the work if his heart is in it. At Vandy, I think his desire just wasn’t there anymore.

by Train Island on Apr 11, 2010 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

For whatever reason...

…I’m reminded of Jerry Lucas, Jr, who was at Vandy briefly in the mid-90s. Big guy, very gifted, but basketball just wasn’t the most important thing in his life. I think it’s very possible that AJ has gotten to be as good as he needs to be in order to be happy with his career and do what he likes back home – in which case, good for him.

"Well, if that ain't a show, I'll kiss your ass." - Gov. Jim Folsom Sr. (D-AL), 1948-52

by VandyImport on Apr 11, 2010 7:46 PM EDT reply actions  

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