Gus Malzahn Extended at Auburn; Woody Widenhofer Still Available
Gus Malzahn's position at Auburn is more secure than ever after signing on for a multi-year contract extension that will pay him $1.3 million annually. Malzahn is just one of several coaches on the Tigers' staff who will be receiving raises on the coattails of Auburn's 13-0 season.
Vanderbilt, on the other hand, will turn their attention to their short list of candidates in coordinator positions across the country. Maryland Offensive Coordinator James Franklin, Stanford Assistant Head Coach Greg Roman, Michigan State OC Don Treadwell, and Nebraska OC Shawn Watson appear to be the current frontrunners. Other names such as Miami's Mark Whipple and Navy's Ivin Jasper have also come up in rumors, though nothing official has been reported by either Vanderbilt or any other institution.
It was a wild 24 hours of speculation, and Commodore fans have transitioned from the crest of a potential big-name signing and into the depths of same-old Vandy ineptness. Malzahn was a high-profile signing that would have put this team on the front page of sports sections across the southeast throughout his tenure. The buzz that this near-coup generated proves that bringing a big name to Nashville can make the Commodores relevant, at least from a media standpoint. Now fans across the country are left wondering what the university can do for an encore. Gus Malzahn may not be coaching at Vanderbilt next year - but there's still time to pick up a coach who can generate headlines and wins during his time at Dudley Field.
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I will say this...
…if this was an 11th hour flake job to get more money out of Auburn, then I hope he gets roasted and flayed alive when the NCAA comes calling.
It’s one thing if he was never in the picture. It’s another if the deal was all but done and then it turned out we were being used. Not that we’re ever likely to know.
Now what? Is there anyone out there (other than maybe MAYBE Leach) who isn’t going to feel like a letdown?
"Well, if that ain't a show, I'll kiss your ass." - Gov. Jim Folsom Sr. (D-AL), 1948-52
Re: I will say this
Even if that was the case the University did an awful job handling this today. Someone in the PR department should be crucified for letting this story run out of control for well over 24 hours. Expecatations for the program just went from an all-time high to lower then they were before and I am afraid any hire is going to be a huge dissapointment at this point. Who would want to come into this job after this mess!?
(sigh) Vandy usually does most things right. I thought maybe this time it would be football too.
"There are going to be days when you think you've got no more to give and then you're going to give plenty more. You are going to have pride and class. You are going to be very special. You are going to win the national championship for the University of Alabama." - Coach Paul Bear Bryant
I'm still not getting the Leach love yet....
All I’ve seen is talk about the lawsuits, but not about whether he did anything wrong.
What is our assurance that he can be trusted with the welfare of the students?
Real mean dog on a chain.
John Ingram will buy us this dog on surplus from Homeland Security and have him trained to bite Leach if he grabs hold of a player or throws on 4th down from his own side of the field.
http://www.theonion.com/articles/department-of-homeland-security-deputizes-real-mea,345/
"Well, if that ain't a show, I'll kiss your ass." - Gov. Jim Folsom Sr. (D-AL), 1948-52
Several men I know said that they were treated worse in pee-wee football
Do you not see what a smug-sleez-scum bag Craig James is. He’s admitted to the fact that he took large sums of money during the SMU death penalty, he looks like a tool, and he’s cry baby
"There are going to be days when you think you've got no more to give and then you're going to give plenty more. You are going to have pride and class. You are going to be very special. You are going to win the national championship for the University of Alabama." - Coach Paul Bear Bryant
Allow me to emphasize that I don’t really know anything about Mike Leach or Adam or Craig James.
It’s just that a lot has been said about Leach lately, but I haven’t seen that discussed in particular, and that’s the part that concerns me, not the lawsuits or whatever.
I understand what you’re saying – I’m concerned with I just don’t want the program to inherit drama.
But Leach, he’s a offensive genius, but very very excentric and quirky, and wasn’t really liked in Texas because he’s not a good-ol’-boy. Craig James is just – I don’t know what in the hell he’s doing on ESPN – gawd that dude is awful!
"There are going to be days when you think you've got no more to give and then you're going to give plenty more. You are going to have pride and class. You are going to be very special. You are going to win the national championship for the University of Alabama." - Coach Paul Bear Bryant
Well, I think the drama is inevitable if we do get Leach.
But I think that’s okay as long as he comports himself well at Vanderbilt. I think Vanderbilt’s reputation can help us here. Now, were he to treat students poorly, act unethically, or otherwise embarrass the University, I’d be disconsolate, but without that happening I see this being relatively forgotten some years down the line.
And I know Leach has a lot going for him (not to mention we wouldn’t need to worry about his salary being doubled to keep him from Vandy)…
The question (for irrelevant me) is whether he can be trusted to keep up the aspects of the football program Vanderbilt has to be proud of now. And whether the students will be treated well by him. So I’d love to hear an emphatic “you don’t need to worry about that” by people who know the Leach situation better.
Actually, I'd be happy with the names listed above...except, DEAR GOD NOT WHIPPLE!
But, yeah, I’m thinking it was all for money. I’m also a Bama fan so no love lost from me – just another reason to disdain Auburn. The NCAA death penalty sentence couldn’t come soon enough for me.
"There are going to be days when you think you've got no more to give and then you're going to give plenty more. You are going to have pride and class. You are going to be very special. You are going to win the national championship for the University of Alabama." - Coach Paul Bear Bryant
If Franklin is the best we can do...
Then it is time to stop football at Vanderbilt. I am tired of taking guys who can’t cut it anywhere else, or more importantly not being sought out by anyone else but us. How bad is our university at football hiring that we continue to screw this up. I am a lifelong VU Fan, but this is getting old. If this is the best we can do, then let’s stop the madness.
Amen to that.
Franklin is not a guy I associate with “good offense”. He may be a decent enough recruiter here in the Maryland area, but I can tell you first hand that he (and Ralph Friedgen) regularly get out-recruited by Larry Johnson, Sr. up at Penn State.
Furthermore, I’ve NEVER seen one of his Maryland teams have anything resembling an explosive and/or innovative offense.
Vandy could save money, if that’s the goal, and just give the job to Herb Hand.
At this point...
…if it’s got to be an OC, give me the Stanford guy. At least they build from the O-line out (which is why you’ve heard of Gerhardt and Luck). Nothing about the Terps gives me any reason to think their HCiW is the guy to put us over the middle. (Over the top seems a little greedy at this point.)
"Well, if that ain't a show, I'll kiss your ass." - Gov. Jim Folsom Sr. (D-AL), 1948-52
Burned bridges.
I worry that Williams has burned some bridges. I mean, those guys at the Washington Post had to get their info from somewhere, most likely a source close to Franklin. If Franklin (and I would presume the Stanford guy, Roman) were led to believe that they were out of the running, they may not want to step back in. Roman is the more attractive hire, and the one that makes the most sense. For Franklin, all he has to do is sit back and let Ralph Friedgen coach one more year. If Maryland goes undefeated, Friedgen gets an extension and Franklin gets $1 Million, but if Maryland has another 3 loss season, Friedgen is gone and Franklin is the guy.
Malzahn is a coward
I have been a long time Vandy fan and a season ticket holder for both football and basketball. I have always been proud of Vanderbilt in the SEC and how as a university they have never sacrificed academics for athletics, because the players are Student Athletes first. If we are to believe reports that they did in fact offer Malzahn $3 million a year to be HC and he instead took $1.3 million to stay as OC, that speaks volumes for what he thinks of himself. I personally think we need someone who is willing to take a risk and not someone who is a chicken sh*t and can’t take on a challenge. I want someone who can prove that they are a real coach.
Nobody else is going to give out top-5-national money for 8 wins a year.
In a way this should be the most attractive job in the country – insane amounts of cash for a very low threshold of success. Hell, two non-losing seasons back-to-back would be the best performance since Steve Sloan in the early 70s. Schedule four sorry non-conf games, beat Kentucky and Ole Miss, get lucky somewhere once a year, and POW, you’re a genius (and probably writing your own ticket to the next job, but still).
I’d love to see some of these so-called genius coaches nut up and prove how good they actually are.
"Well, if that ain't a show, I'll kiss your ass." - Gov. Jim Folsom Sr. (D-AL), 1948-52
That's the part that's annoyed me the most since this offer came out
The four sorry non-conference games. You’re telling me Vandy has $21M to throw at a coach, but can’t reschedule Rice and start two I-65 rivalries with UAB and WKU?
Offer these schools a 2-for-1 home/home deal and add an in-state I-AA team for the 4th game already.
Major League
Does anyone else feel like Randy Quaid in Major League?
There is no second choice
I certainly hope to be proven wrong, but Malzahn was the one hire that could elevate (or at least stabilize) the program. Everyone else will be left overs in the eyes of the media and fans. At least the Cubs get coaches that think they can lift the curse. We are screwed.
by Smoke n Mirrors on Dec 13, 2010 7:42 PM EST reply actions
As a Cubs fan....
…I don’t think ANYONE thinks Mike Quade is going to lift the curse.
As for Vandy, if Army can be bowl eligible and Navy can be downright good running the triple option, why not give that a chance at Vandy again? I was there when DiNardo was running the eyebone, and we won 5 games with Ronny Gordon at Quarterback! Navy and Army can’t have facilities that are SO much better than we have, can they?
Look at Stanford…admittedly, the PAC-10 is not the SEC, but they are consistently decent.
Not THAT consistently
They’re not far removed from 1-10 and they only have two Big Game wins since 2001…what they do have is John Arrilliga, an alum who owns ridiculous amounts of real estate in Silicon Valley and as such has literally hundreds of millions of dollars to throw at Stanford’s 37 (sic) varsity teams. When you’re building the football coach a $70K custom bathroom in his office, you’ve got STUPID money to play with.
"Well, if that ain't a show, I'll kiss your ass." - Gov. Jim Folsom Sr. (D-AL), 1948-52
by VandyImport on Dec 13, 2010 8:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Phew..
That was a close call guys – We almost got a legit head coach. Let’s not take this as another disappointment, but as an opportunity to find a gem. I hear that The Little Sisters of the Poor has a fantastic offensive guru calling the shots. Can we got get her?
No but seriously.. Mike Leach. get it done.
LEACH is the only hire now....
I have agreed that Leach is the only hire from the start. He was a good hard nosed coach that got run out of town by a pretty boy announcers son. I bet he would come for 2.5M plus….. That would be the only call for the Board to try and make us legit. We can not bring another 2nd or 3rd tier coach in and expect anything more than what Johnson did for us. We need a crazy offense to compete in SEC – pro style will never succeed in the SEC with legit defenses every Saturday. Anyone can score against the PAC 12 defenses. A crappy UGA team beat they crazy GA Tech offense the last two years, so Navy should be out. LEACH all the way!!!!
Word is..
the job is James Franklins if he wants it, according to Vandysports.com. I gotta be honest I hardly know anything about him, but I like what I’ve read. He’s 39, high energy, a great recruiter, and best of all, he WANTS the job! I’m on board with Frank the Tank.. its better than Gus’s short bus anyways. Maybe the non-SEC blood will be good for the program.
BTW, can we speed up the clock? We need a bball game here ASAP. Go Vandy.
Props for still being up to follow the news
I wish I could get more fired up about this hire, but when the entire world knows this wasn’t your first pick, it’s going to be damn hard to sit there and watch him put on the hat and feel like we’re going to make the leap to adequacy we thought was in the bag. I’m pinning a LOT on this notion that he is a hell of a recruiter – Maryland is such a mixed bag and the ACC such a show (it’s not the Big Least, I’ll give it that), it’s hard to know what his offense is going to look like translated to the SEC East.
And next year’s schedule is a ballbuster, make no mistake. Right now I see one sure win and two oughtas (LOL Miss and Wake) but I’ve got to be honest, right now 6-6 looks about as likely as Paris Hilton in a convent.
"Well, if that ain't a show, I'll kiss your ass." - Gov. Jim Folsom Sr. (D-AL), 1948-52
by VandyImport on Dec 14, 2010 12:43 AM EST up reply actions
Haha
I’m doing my best. I really really want to be happy and excited about Vandy football, even if it means being a little delusional right now. Unlike yaall, I have only been a Vandy fan for 6 years now, so I don’t know much of the history. I’m just so wary of becoming 75 and talking about the ‘08 music city bowl.
Having said that, I imagine a 39 year old African American has gotta connect with recruits a little more than Steve Mart Bobby Johnson, right? I figure I’m gonna convince myself its a good hire for the next couple days. What I’m really going to keep an eye out for is an updates on facilities upgrades. I imagine if we arm Franklin with some ammo about facility upgrades that he could do some damage on the recruiting trail. Other than that, I’m hoping for the best.
Ugh...
I can’t get remotely excited about James Franklin. He may be young and high energy, and a minority, but there is NOTHING special about his career at Maryland that leads one to believe he’d be able to succeed in a situation like Vandy. Maryland’s facilities are better, they have a better captive recruiting base in DC and they don’t have those pesky academic standards to deal with.
For the last few years, there have been some TERRIBLE offenses at Maryland, and none of them have been particularly innovative in the kind of way that would lead you to believe that they’d be able to succeed with LESS talent. True, Maryland was better this year, mainly because they lucked into finding a stud QB.
Finally, NOBODY up here is sad to see him go. Not that they want him fired, but they aren’t out picketing in the streets like they were at Auburn. There’s no talk of million dollar raises to keep him in College Park.
Not sure how I feel about it
I was always more into Roman than Franklin (after Leach of course), having no reason for it except my preconceptions about what we’d be looking for and the fact that Roman can run his own offense.
When we ended up looking at coordinators, I imagined we’d get one who we know can run an offense, and the challenge would be finding one who can also be a head coach. I was always pretty convinced Roman could be that kind of guy.
Instead it seems like we have one who’s more like a head coach without the head coach experience. We have a guy who seems likely to be able to run the team, but we have no reason to believe he can run an offense. The idea of a who can probably manage a team well, but can’t scheme the team to be in the game was too Bobby Johnson-y.
I just always had the idea that we needed to get better on the field before we were ever going to recruit well. We aren’t going to turn the corner by having a new guy show up and say, see I’m different, even if he says it really convincingly. We need a guy who can get the most out of what we have by actually giving us an offensive identity, and then can build up the team by getting the players that fit best into his system.
To me that’s Roman.
It’s weird with Franklin because I can see how he could work, yet I am the farthest thing from excited about him.
And it’s not just that he isn’t Malzahn (or Leach, who we should totally still get). As letdown as I was, I never really expected him to be it before Friday, so I just went back to how I felt before. I felt all season that even competent coaching of our offense could have won at least another couple games. It never HAD to be a star for me, as much as it would have helped.
If Franklin ends up being the HC, Herb had better be the OC. That could work for me, if for no reason other than it keeps Herb in the family. The idea of Vandy running the no-huddle spread will scare me until I see it done well, but if there is anyone (other than Leach and Malzahn) who could make the spread work here, it’s Herb.
If Hand isn’t the OC, it had better be one interesting staff. If Franklin is going to run the offense and call plays, I’m going to be really skeptical (i.e. sick to my stomach).
I agree
with pretty much all of what you said here. Before the whole Malzahn distraction I was also more excited at the prospect of getting Roman than Franklin. Stanford’s offense has racked up offensive numbers during a stunning season vs better opposition than Maryland faces. Meanwhile, Maryland is going to….the Military Bowl (after going 2-10 last year). Big wow.
Also, Stanford is what Vandy aspires to, they have similar academic requirements—seems like a natural step to go after someone who has succeeded in similar environment. I guess we have to trust that DW has intereviewed these guys and must have seen something that convinced him that whoever he hires is the best man for the job, despite what the resumes appear to tell us.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but Bobby Johnson’s weak point was his offensive coordinator (and/or his loyalty to him). So, if we get Franklin, here’s to hoping he doesn’t botch that vastly important decision.
Ultimately though, it will take more than one man (the new head coach, for example) to turn Vandy football around. Gotta spend the money on bettter facilities, recruiting, the stadium..go all in. Sounds like they may be ready to step up in those areas. Let’s hope so.
by Club Cashville on Dec 14, 2010 9:43 AM EST up reply actions
Franklin from a Maryland Fan's perspective
You will hear a lot of bad mouthing from UMD about Franklin, but most of the ire is from the contract situation rather than his coaching itself. Don’t get me wrong, if he calls the offensive plays, then as an SEC school, you might be scared. Maryland’s offense this year is the best I’ve seen since the first years of Ralph Fridgen, and its been done on a patchwork offensive line, so he might not recruit the best men in the trenches, he can motivate them to protect the thing he has the most strength in recruiting, a quarterback. Danny O’Brien (r-fr), Maryland’s starting QB, was the ACC FOY (offense and overall), came to Maryland because of what he saw in Franklin. He is a smart field general and a smart student, which is exactly what a team like Vanderbilt is looking to attract. Franklin has already begun to snag good Florida prospects and bring them to College Park, I don’t see why he can bring some academically qualifying, good Florida prospects to Vandy.
I would love to see UMD and Franklin renegotiate his awful HCIW agreement, just to keep him as a recruiter for a little longer and continue to develop DOB. While he is no Gus Malzahn, I feel that Franklin could actually be a good fit for Vanderbilt in the long run.
Seems to be a moot point as of now
Washington Post is once again (somewhat excitedly) reporting that Franklin will be named coach as soon as tonight. I don’t like the hire, but I’ll support him like I did all the rest.
I just hope he can get some kind of offensive philosophy that isn’t completely useless.
At least Vandy will hae saved a bunch of money on this hire.
Not sure...
I don’t know enough about the hire to have a firm opinion on the guy – nor I suspect do most people. He’s the coach in waiting at Maryland. If Florida takes Texas’s coach in waiting, then I guess it makes some sense that we get Maryland’s. I like that he is young and black. I like that he has done a great job developing quarterbacks (Josh Freeman and Danny O’Brien). I like that he was an NFL coach, albeit in a relatively small role and for a brief stint. I don’t like that Maryland went 2-10 in 2009 or that they are far from an offensive juggernaut.
It’s a less exciting hire than Malzahn, but if people are going to credit Malzahn for Mustain and Newton, then Franklin deserves credit for Freeman (2007 under Franklin was arguably his best season at K-State) and O’Biren (2010 ACC rookie of the year – and hardly the top recruit in the conference).
Saving money is good...
…Cam Newton got any siblings?
"Well, if that ain't a show, I'll kiss your ass." - Gov. Jim Folsom Sr. (D-AL), 1948-52
by VandyImport on Dec 14, 2010 10:48 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
This just about
sums up the last two days.

by doresandhogs on Dec 14, 2010 1:40 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
Rec'd
Also, conference solidarity be d____d, I shall be rooting for Oregon like the very devil and could not be more enthused for them were I to strip down to the nude, stuff my posterior with feathers and proceed to quack about the house for five hours on January the Tenth.
(finishes armagnac; slides sullenly into back seat of Dusenberg, orders chauffer home)
"Well, if that ain't a show, I'll kiss your ass." - Gov. Jim Folsom Sr. (D-AL), 1948-52

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