Vanderbilt Football and the Common Sense Offense
Editor's Note: The Goche put together one of the greatest rants this website has ever seen in the comments section of the USC/Vandy recap. It immediately became one of our better football critiques, mostly because it wasn't drafted in crayon, so we asked him (her? SBNation user names aren't great for gender specification) to put it in a FanPost so we could front page it, and we were treated to some awesome analysis to share with the AoG faithful. Enjoy!
Who knows if we really had much of a shot to beat LSU or South Carolina. Even at its best, our offense really shouldn't be expected to score that many points against defenses like these, but it sure is tough to watch our offense sputter knowing the difference just a few extended drives could make. Would suggestions like these fix the offense? I can't say, but what we are doing isn't just not working. We continually play into our biggest weaknesses. Here are my common sense suggestions for actually scoring some points.
1. Scrap the No Huddle
This really doesn't seem to be too novel an idea. We are one of the best schools in the country at wearing our defense out. Our TOP is 25:24 per game good for 118th in the FBS. Certainly to some extent, it us up to the defense to get themselves off the field, but even our 12 play, 83 yard scoring drive lasted only 3:45. For reference SC had 4 drives that went fewer than 40 yards that lasted longer. We have got to give our defense time. It's not as if the no huddle is bothering our opponents, so just scrap it. It hurts the defense and doesn't have any noticeable help for the offense. Why fool with it? Instead take the time and think about our playcalling, which certainly doesn't appear to have a surplus of thought going into it.
2. Don't give up on the run
Sure, some teams are just fine going all pass when opposing defenses stack up players against their run games. However, one characteristic that these teams seem to share is this: they are actually good at passing and catching!
We cannot allow opposing teams to force us out of utilizing our strongest position (RB) and instead depend on our weakest offensive position (WR). Yes, I realize that running the ball is hard when bigger, stronger, faster teams stack up in the box, but it is not any harder than passing to WR who are never open, with a QB who isn't very accurate.
In the SC game, Warren Norman and Zac Stacy had 6 carries each. Larry Smith had 15 carries and 31 passing attempts. I think we can win with Larry, but I don't think anyone thinks we can win with ONLY Larry. On second down in the SC game, we called only 2 runs to Stacy or Warren in 19 chances. In our four 2nd and middle/short situations we tried to pass every time (gaining the 1st down just once).
We almost entirely gave up on our 2 best offensive players outside of 1st down. That just won't do.
We have got to have a mix of run plays and simple pass plays that keep us moving forward, keep the clock moving, wear out the defense, and hopefully lead to make-able 3rd downs. Instead of grinding the run, and mixing in passes, we tend to go all pass, thinking that only 1 in 3 has to be completed to get a 1st down. But this doesn't work, which brings me to my next point.
3. Get into make-able 2nd and 3rd downs
The one stat that, to me, most explains our loss is this. We reached 3rd down 16 times in the game. Of those 16 3rd downs, only one was less than 3rd and 5. It gets even worse, as this was actually the 3rd and goal that we scored on from the 3 after starting with 1st and goal at the 5. So we did not once go from 1st and 10 and to a make-able 3rd down.
Not surprisingly we were only 2 for 15 in those 3rd and long situations. On 9 pass attempts, we failed to make the 1st down even once. On 6 runs (all by Larry, including several on scrambles) we were 2-6.
This goes along with grinding the run. Stacy and Warren gained at least some yardage on 10 of 12 carries. Not much, but they made progress. Meanwhile, passing on 1st down, we were only 3-9 with 2 first downs.
This also affects the time of possession. We have to keep the clock running.
The worst example of this was our 1st drive of the 4th quarter. With over 12 minutes left on the clock, down only 7 after the blocked FG. At this point, it was clear our defense was tired, yet they had rallied to stop the drive and keep us in the game.
So what is the first thing we do? Pass! Go deep! Try for a 1st down right away! Sure if it works that sounds great, but we had no reason to think it would work. It doesn't work, so the clock stops and we are stuck in 2nd and 10. For the game we converted a first down once in 10 2nd and 10 or more situations.
So we pass again, and fail. 3rd and 10 and one more incompletion. After 35 seconds of possession, our defense is back out on the field.
The worst part is, it's common sense to run on 1st down there, just to give the defense a chance to rest (like when the umpire sweeps the plate after a catcher gets hit by a foul-tip). Respect the effort your defense put in and give them a chance to rest. Instead, we risk the whole drive on the ability to hit a 10 yard pass, something that happened only 6 times all night in 31 attempts.
What is worse is that we are extremely easy to cover on 3rd and long. When there is little likelihood of a run call, defenses need only spy the QB and can still easily man cover all of our WRs and have safety help over the top. It's no wonder we didn't complete a 3rd down with a pass all game.
Instead we have to use mixture of varied runs and a few short passes to keep the option of using the run game open. A one-dimensional team is easy to beat, and as predictable as our playcalling is, we are very one dimensional after 1st down. This leads to my final point.
4. Be creative in the run (and mix up the short passing)
Why is it that the only time we attempt to be creative, we are finding ways to get the ball to John Cole or Udom Umoh on reverses or end-arounds?
Why with 2 great starting RBs, 2 more valuable (and rarely used) RBs, and a QB who can run, do we almost never use a 2 RB set? If we have trouble run blocking, why not use a 2 TE set instead of sending out 3 mediocre WR each play?
Why does it seem like when we do run we only ever run a zone read option (which Larry keeps too much anyway)? It's no wonder the run game never seems to work, it's horribly predictable.
Try 2 RB sets. How about a split-back triple option? We have used this play and it has worked in the past, yet we rarely ever use it. Why not try a straight up outside option? What about the wildcat? What about a misdirection?
(Furthermore, why do we apparently only have 1 short pass. The roll-out to the right and pass to the out route. Everyone knows we are doing this, and the play leaves only one real option to pass to, making it easy to cover. Mix it up!)
I can't say these things will work, but against a good defense, running the same plays over and over again will almost never work. In the end, the biggest problem with this team has been, when our game plan isn't working, we don't try to adapt. Regardless of the outcome (especially as the next 2 weeks will be tough), fans will appreciate if the staff shows a willingness to give up what doesn't work and to try new things that might.
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It does sound like we may be moving towards dropping the no huddle and that is great. It also sounds like the main reason we chose Des Kitchings to be the new offensive coordinator is to get the ball to our RBs more.
Here are some things I'd love to see next week (assuming the no-huddle is gone):
- 2 RB sets
- 2 TE sets (this is less creativity than just trying to work with what we have, the line would benefit from the help and Mason Johnston blocking might free up Brandon Barden to receive more often out of the TE position, plus Barden can motion out to a WR spot).
- Continue to run the ball on 2nd down, even 2nd and long. (In general, quit basing the entire offense on the ability to make 10 yard passes.)
- Keep their defense off balance in pursuit of the run, with misdirection and options.
- Make progress against the down and distance markers.
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Couldn't agree more
Spreading the field is worthless when only 1 receiver has the speed and ability to run routes in the SEC…and he is a Freshman. Other than Krause the other WR (Cole and Udom) aren’t able to get any separation and get open allowing man coverage and stacking the box is a no brainer.
I say go with Larry with Norman, Stacey and Reeves/Tate as a modified fullback in a full house backfield. That hasn’t been seen in the SEC in 20 years, but don’t just run it like Air Force and Navy, use the athleticism that we have in the 3 receivers like Georgia Tech does and take shots down the field intermittently. Last year Demaryius Thomas was a first round pick and he could only run a go route! I’m sure Krause, Cole and even Udom could run fast downfield! And with a baby o-line which may grow into a talented line, they would have simple assignments versus complex blitz pickups and could excel. Also, by flipping the time of possession, it would allow us to use our defense to our advantage.
Obviously that isn’t gonna happen before the Arkansas game (or ever!), but it sounds good doesn’t it?
As you said, we can’t keep taking our 2 best players off the field by play calling. I’m sure my beloved Gators would love the talents Stacey and Norman bring…so why are we not using them? Maybe the new coordinator has some understanding of the enviable talent we have…and will use them!
Wishbone with Krause and Barden at WR/TE?
I like that idea. That’s the most talent we could squeeze out of the skill positions, and immediate eliminate the world’s worst deep combination in Cole/Larry. Leave Barden in to block more often and bring the line together slowly, occasionally busting him up the seam, etc. It’s got to be more effective than the current offense.
Besides, most of our good recruits are RBs lately anyway. Might as well put them to work.
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by Christian D'Andrea on Oct 26, 2010 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
We need some sort of gimmick
Do I wish we could just go toe-to-toe with UF and out spread them? Absolutely. But we can’t.
Now, I’m not saying our whole offense needs to go as far as Georgia Tech (or something as wild as a wishbone). But as much as people like to tear down schools like GT, they found a way to work with the recruiting they can get.
Plus, that is part of the fun of college football: the variety.
If we are going to compete for a bowl on anything close to a regular basis, we have to find a way to succeed with what we’ve got. This means, we have to do something out of the ordinary because we just are not often going to have a team that can just run with the big dogs playing their game.
It’s probably too late this year to totally overhaul, but we might as well play around. Have fun, run crazy crap. Pull out The Annexation of Puerto Rico. I don’t know, at least it would be more fun.
That said, no more long developing plays that depend on John Cole’s running. Those are not fun.
Hey, I like John Cole running the ball…on punt returns!
And you are correct, the gimmick is what keeps tech competitive AND they still get high end athletes on both sides of the ball. I think the spread was a gimmick, but the experiment has failed.
by blockersave93 on Oct 27, 2010 7:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Barden and Krause are the only pass catchers that are matchup problems, so I agree 100%!
Udom is the worst, he has not caught a ball against a FBS team this year…not that Cole catching 1 is so much more impressive…
by blockersave93 on Oct 27, 2010 7:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Thomas did what was asked of him as far as routes.
I wouldn’t sell him short, he was an absolute beast who abused smaller defenders. Take a look at Tech’s receivers this year. They are fast, but don’t provide much production. This is more like the results Vandy could expect from the WR position in a wreckbone offense.
Excellent post
I haven’t understood why they didn’t use Warren or Zack more. Or why they take each one of them out after a great play; if they are fired up keep them in. II say let’s just throw everything we got at ‘em. Love to see Goro or Funk in as QB and Larry as a receiver/back. Let’s be entertaining and fun. Hopefully Arkansas won’t know what hit them. Go Dores!
Give Goro a chance
He’s mobile and can pull off a lot of what Larry does (not all). I wouldn’t mind seeing him take some reps, even if he does end up looking a little lost out there.
I just wish Jordan Rodgers could pick up the offense, although a pocket passer would have trouble thriving behind this patchwork line. Still, I have hope in a Rodgers/Krause downfield connection.
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by Christian D'Andrea on Oct 27, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Scrap the no huddle
One of the main advantages of the no huddle is that it increases the number of plays in a game. This is advantagous when you are the better/more talented team, because it gives your talent more opportunities to prove itself. Since it is fairly safe to say we are not the more talented team, I agree that it is a bad idea. Just like a less talented basketball team slows down the game and limits possessions, I think our football team should too. It is easier to outplay Florida over 65 offensive plays than 80 offensive plays. Also, it is probably safe to say that we have less depth than other SEC teams, so we are more likely to wear ourselves out than our opponents.
I also agree that we need to stick with the run more, but the time run off the game clock does not really affect how tired a defense gets. It’s actual time that matters. If you go three and out it doesn’t really matter whether you run or pass, the defense is coming right back on the field. I think this makes more sense with respect to point one though. Keep the game clock moving to shorten the game and limit possessions.
Exactly, on the last point there.
It doesn’t affect how tired you are at any given moment (for that we need to actually get 1st downs). But in the end, it will mean the defense is on the field less. I mean, their 3rd TD came on the defense’s 35th minute on the field (I think it was about 34:06 TOP when they scored) with over 6 minutes left in the game.
A 2 minute 3-and-out instead of a 30 second one, means 90 less seconds that the defense might be on the field at the end of the game holding on for dear life. And I think we all agree that our defense is a lot more fun to watch in the first 30 minutes on the field than it is from there on out.
Awesome
I finally had a chance to read this after several days of hellish corporate life. Excellent points!
Thanks for this. And then they promoted Kitchings!

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